NO. 282316 FILED 16.01.44  MON 11 APR 1977

FROM MDH

TO   GHR

CC   FJP NETI RDM TYM      



FURTHER TO OUR FONE CONVERSTATION ON LINE PLANNING I SUGGEST THAT YOU TAKE THE FOLLOWING FACTORS

IN APPROXIMATELY THE ORDER OF PRIORITY GIVEN.



1] WHERE POSSIBLE HAVE TRANSIT NODES (NODES HAVING MORE THAN ONE SYNC LINE) IN MANNED OFFICES SINCE THE CONSEQUENCES

OF CATESTROPHIC FAILURE IN A TRANSIT NODE MAY BE WIDESPREAD AND IT SIMPLY TAKES TOO LONG TO GET SOMEONE THERE TO REPAIR

ANYTHING (EVEN A SIMPLE BLOWN FUSE).



2] SECONDARY TO [1] LOCATE TRANSIT NODES IN AREAS WHERE THE LOCAL PTT IS AS COMPETANT AS POSSIBLE AND, IF POSSIBLE

ALSO COOPERATIVE.



3] SUBSIDAIRY TO THESE CONSIDERATIONS TRY AND MINIMISE THE NUMBER OF INTERMEDIATE NODES TO THE CPU. THIS CONSTRAINT IS

CONSIDERABLY LESS IMPORTANT THAN WAS INITIALLY ASSUMED AND IT HAS BEEN EMPIRICALLY FOUND THAT WHOLELY SATISFACTORY SERVICE

IS PROVIDED IN SITES HAVING 3 INTERMEDIATE LINKS AT 2400 BPS (EG STOCKHOLM). EXCLUDEING

PHYSICALLY LONG LINES (LIKE TRANSATLANTIC) AND ASSUMING THAT WE AVOID INTRAEUROPEAN SATELITE

CONNECTIONS THEN THE ACTUAL TRANSMISSION TIME IS NEGLIGABLE. IN SUCH CASES THE ONLY FACTOR AFFECTING DELAY IS THE MODEM

SPEED WITH DELAY BEING INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL TO MODEM SPEED (FOR A 'REASONABLY' LOADED CHANNEL). IN GENERAL THUS A SINGLE

2400 BPS LINK INTRODUCES ABOUT AS MUCH DELAY AS 2 4800 BPS LINKS.



A SECONDARY REASON FOR WISHING TO MINIMISE THE NUMBER OF NODES IS, OF COURSE, THAT A HARDWARE FAILURE AT ANY INTERMEDIATE

POINT WILL KILL ALL DEPENDENT POINTS, HOWEVER EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT THE HARDWARE (MODEMS AND a'S) IS A LOT

MORE RELIABLE NOW (AFTER A SHAKEDOWN PERIOD) THAN THE LINES HENCE I CONSIDER THAT THE OTHER 2 PRIORITIES WIN.



ON VIEW OF THIS IT APPEARS LOGICAL TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING REROUTING,

A] REPLACE ZUR==PAR BY ZUR==DUS (AVOIDS SLIGOS AND THE FRENCH PTT) UNLESS THE TARIF IS MUCH GREATER

B] FEED VIENNA FROM DUSS (THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE TO FEEDING FROM ZURICH AND THE TARRIF IS HIGHER)

C] FEED MILANO FROM ZURICH



THIS LEAVES 3 MAJOR TRANSIT NODES IN THE NETWORK, LONE, ASD AND DUSS (WITH INCIDENTAL TRANSIT TRAFFIC IN CPH AND ZUR)

PARIS IS THEN RELAGATED TO THE STATUS OF THE END OF A BRANCH DUE TO THE POOR PTT ETC (THERE ARE ARGUMENTS FOR

REMOVING THE PAR==LONE LINE AND REPLACING IT WITH PAR==BRU AT THE SAME TIME AS MOVING OUT OF SLIGOS). THE ONLY REASON FOR FEEDING

ZUR FROM PAR WAS THAT IT WAS PLANNED TO TERMINATE THE SECOND T/A CABLE IN PAR ORIGINALLY .



I HAVE NOT MENTIONED THE OBVIOUS FACTOR IN TARRIFS IN STRUCTURING THE NETWORK AND CLEARLY IF ANY LINK IS

EXCESSIVELY EXPENSIVE (LIKE ANY OUT OF SWITZERLAND) THEY SHOULD BE MINIMISED



THIS LEAVES THE WORST CASE NODE AS MILANO HAVING 4 INTERMEDIATE NODES (ASSUMING THAT ASD FEEDS AN a IN LONE AND IS NOT

CIRCUIT SWITCHED INTO 3705P) HOWEVER TWO OF THE PATHS ARE 4800 (LONE==ASD AND ASD==DUSS) HENCE THE EXPECTED DELAY IS ABOUT

THE SAME AS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED IN STOCKHOLM (IT WILL OF COURSE BE BETTER IF ASD IS SWITCHED INTO YYZ DIRECTLY)





NO. 288792 FILE 9.28.15  WED 20 APR 1977

FROM GHR

TO   FJP GFO IPS RDM TYM



VIENNA.

I PROPOSE WE ROUTE VIENNA VIA DUESS FOR FOLLOWING REASONS:

A]WE AHVE AN IPSA MANNED NODE IN DUESS

B]SAME NO OF LINKS IN THE CHAIN AS VIA PARIS

C] CUTS OUT SLIGOS

D]GERMAN BUNDESPOST NOW VERY COOPERATIVE.

LICENCES ETC.

A] RACAL MILGO 24 LSI LICENSED

B]SEMATRANS 200 ,RACAL 300 AND ITT GH 1151 CAD ALL LICENSED.

C]NO NEED FOR a TYPE APPROVAL..THANK HEAVENS.

D]DELIVERY OF AN M102 ..3 WEEKS ..THEY SAY IN VIENNA.. BUT I PROPSE WE SHOOT FOR SEPT 1ST

E]NO TERMINAL LICENCE PROBLEMS..

OTHERWISE A VERY CIVILISED PTT.../

SUBJECT TO IPS APPROVAL WILL ORDER THE CIRCUIT FOM DUESSEARLY JUNE AFTER SECURING

OFFICE ACCOMMODATION... ROBBIE



NO. 288806 FILED  9.35.03  WED 20 APR 1977

FROM GHR

TO   FJP IPS RDM

CC   GFO TYM



I SUGGEST WE URGENTLY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING NETWORK RECONFIGURATION OVER HERE...

THAT IS IF THERE IS ANY WAY OF GETTING 4800 BAUD TO PARIS THIS WAY.

A] DUESS .. VIENNA

B]DUESS ZURICH

C]BRUSSELS.. PARIS

D]ZURICH MILAN.



THE PARIS LINE SHOULD BE ORDERED TO TERMINATE IN OUROWN PARIS OFFICE WHEN WE HAVE ONE ??? AUG/SEPT.

AND A NODE SET UP WITHOUT INFORMING SLIGOS. THIS RELEGATES PARIS TO WHERE IT BELONGS .. AS A DEADLEG





NO. 289002 FILE 12.46.52  WED 20 APR 1977

FROM TYM

TO   GHR

CC   FJP GFO IPS RDM



RE UR MSGS 288972 288806



THE ARGUEMENT VIENNA==DUSS PROBABLY LOOKS BETTER FINANCIALLY WITH THE HIGH COSTS OF LINES

IN AND OUT OF ZURICH.THERE IS NOT A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE IN DISTANCE AND NOS. OF INTERVENING NODES

BETWEEN VIENNA==ZURICH,VIENNA==DUSS.



CERTAINLY AS FAR AS SERVICE ON THE HUMAN LEVEL THE LINK ZUR==SLIGOS,IF NOT

IN ITSELF UNRELIABLE,SEEMS TO CAUSE MORE AGGRAVATION WHEN IT DOES GO DOWN.

IN MY EXPERIENCE THO THE PROBLEM IS OUR NECESSARY DEPENDANCE ON THE SLIGOS STAFF

TO LOOK AFTER A LINK(ZUR==PAR) THAT I GUESS THEY ASSUME IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

THERE ISN'T A DEAL OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPOSE THAT SETTING UP A CLANDESTINEIPSA OFFICE

APART FROM SLIGOS,PROVIDED THAT THERE IS A COUPLE OF REASONABLE PEOPLE THERE

,SHOULD NOT GIVE AS GOOD A SERVICE AS THE REMAINDER OF THE NET.

THE PROBLEM AT PRESENT IN PARIS IS NOT THE QUALITY OF THE PTT OR THE a BUT THE

LACKADAISICAL ATTITUDE OF SLIGOS TO OUR COMMS LINES.



DUSS==ZURICH WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER ON A COST BASIS.DIST ZUR==PARIS,ZUR==DUSS IS ABOUT EQUAL.

AGAINST THAT A) IT WOULD PUT ZURICH 1 NODE FURTHER AWAY FROM APL SOURCE

B) IT DISTURBS ESTABLISHED LINE C) IT MEANS 2 NODES HAVE TO BE SERVICED BY 2400 BPS



BRUSSELS==PARIS CONNECTION.

ARE YOU ASSUMING CANCELLATION OF THE CURRENTLY ORDERED BRUSS==ASD LINE?

OR SUGGESTING LONE-ASD-BRUSSELS-PARIS-LONE LINK?

OR CANCELLATION OF PARIS==LONE?

FROM A BACKUP POINT OF VIEW FOR THE EUROPEAN NODES PARIS-BRUSSELS-ASD WOULD SEEM

A GOOD IDEA BUT AGAIN THIS WOULD NOT MEAN THE RELEGATION OF PARIS TO 'A DEADLEG'.





ZURICH==MILAN.             I WOULD HAVE THOUGH THERE WAS AN ARGUEMENT FOR RUNNING

ANY FUTURE MILAN NODE INTO PARIS. THE COST OF THE INCREASED DISTANCE MIGHT(THO I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES)

BE EQUIVALENT TO THE COST OF LINES INTO SWITZERLAND(PRESUMABLY THEY RUN OVER THE ALPS).

THIS WOULD BRING MILAN NEARER THE END OF THE T/A LINE ALSO AND LEAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION

FROM ZURICH OR MILANO(TO ATHENS/ROME FOR INSTANCE).





NO. 291592 FILED 12.16.03  SUN 24 APR 1977

FROM FJP

TO   GHR

CC   GFO IPS RDM TYM



I AM MORE THAN A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT YOUR PLANS FOR NETWORK EXPANSION ARE RUNNING AHEAD OF THEMSELVES;

I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE THINGS AS THEY STOOD FOR A WHILE?  COPENHAGEN e STOCKHOLM ARE FAR FROM JUSTIFYING

THEIR HIGH COSTS, VIENNA HAS A PRETTY WEAK CASE MADE OUT FOR IT, AND MILAN AN EVEN WEAKER ONE. IF WE DON'T BE VERY CAREFUL,

THIS WHOLE NETWORK IS GOING TO COME DOWN ABOUT OUR EARS.  WE ALREADY HAVE MORE COMMITMENTS RE THE NETWORK THAN IS HEALTHY,

AND WE JUST CAN'T SAY YES TO EVERY RX COMANY THAT 'THINKS' THEY WILL COME UP WITH 80 HOURS A MONTH.

BEAR IN MIND THE FOLLOWING POINTS:

1] WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO MINIMISE THE NUMBER OF SWITCHING NODES FOR REASONS OF CONTROL, MAINTENANCE, AND BANDWIDTH: UNLESS

   THERE ARE VERY STRONG FINANCIAL REASONS, DUESS IS A BAD CHOICE, GIVEN THAT ASD IS ALREADY BECOMING A LARGE SWITCHER.

2] I STILL REGARD THE GERMAN PTT AS ANYTHING BUT COOPERATIVE, AND AS SHOWING LITTLE SIGN OF BECOMING SO. IF WE EVER GET

  TO PARALLEL ROUTING, I CAN SEE THEM AS BEING REAL PIGS. AND DO YOU THINK THEY'LL DELIVERE ANY CIRCUIT WITHIN 3 WEEKS?

3] WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR READY TO IMPLE,MENT MULTIPLE CIRCUIT BACKUP (EVEN IF APPROVED), AND SO ORDERS BASED ON THAT ARE

   PERHAPS PREMATURE.

4] WE HAVE TO GET OURSELVES OUIT FROM UNDER SLIGOS, AND THERE WILL BE A NICE PILE OF PROBLEMS THERE, WHICH SHOULDN'T BE

   COMPOUNDED WITH NEW LINES AT THE SAME TIME(UNLESS IT'S A HELPFUL WAY OF DOING THINGS).

5]  RX IS MUTTERING IN VARIOUS QUARTERS THAT ALL CIRCUITS FOR TIMESHARING SHOULD BE HARDWIRED TO THEIR PREMISES. IF WE ARE

  FORCED TO GO ALONG WITH THIS, THERE ARE SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR PLANNING, WHICH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE PUT

   IN PARALLEL LINES.

6] MASSEY HAVE INSTALLED LONG PRIVATE LINES (LUZERN/ROME TO STONELEIGH) SUPPORTING ONLY ONE TERMINAL (CHEAP CIRCUITS THEREFORE)

   AS SHORT TERM ANSWERS TO THE PROBLEM OF LOCAL ACCESS. RX CAN BE ENCOURAGE TO DO THE SAME (AND PAY FOR IT). WHEN RX CAN

   PRODUCE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH REASONABLE INTELLIGENCE AND RESPONSIBILITY, THAT WE CAN TALK TO IN GLOBAL TERMS, WE CAN MAYBE

   ORGANISE SUCH THINGS IN A REASONABLE SANE MANNER.

7] YOUR DATE OF SEPTEMBER FOR VIENNA IS PROBABLY WILDLY OPTIMISTIC. WE HAVE ABOUT 6 NODES TO INSTALL BY THEN, TO MOVE THE

   PICC OFFICE, GET A CRAZY RX SCHEME RUNNING, AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY CHANGES IN VARIOUS PLACES. IF WE WERE COMMON CARRIERS

   BEING PAID FOR ALL THIS ACTIVITY, IT MIGHT BE JUSTIFIABLE, BUT THE COMMS IS A SUBSIDIARY (THOUGH EXPENSIVE)ACTIVITY

   WHICH HAS TO BE JUSTIFIED BY APL REVENUE.

8] MASSEY (A CUSTOMER WITH ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE INTELLIGENCE THAN RX, THO STILL DIFFICULT) MAY BE THE SUBJECT OF

   FAIRLY LARGE CHANGES. IN THE LONG TERM, I CAN SEE THEM AS BEING MORE WORTH SATISFYING THAN RX. SO LETS LEAVE A FEW

   DAYS HERE AND THERE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM.



TO SUM UP, I'M SAYING THAT UNLESS WE HAVE IRREVOCABLE COMMITMENTS, WE HAVE A NETWORK LARGE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY SOME

WORK IN THE MARKETING AREA AS IT STANDS, WITHOUT GOING OVERBOARD STRINGING OUT TO MORE LOSS LEADERS, THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE

TO MAINTAIN WITH OUR CURRENT MANPOWER. DO FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS REALLY JUSTIFY ALL THIS EXTRA SPREADING? 



NO. 316744 FILED  4.29.29  FRI 27 MAY 1977

FROM FJP 

TO   RDM



ON ALPAHGEAR 34:

6 e 20]  MF ROME MACHINE IS BASICALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. HANOVER IS AS YET NOT FULLY DEFINED; THEY

HAVE A LARGISH NUMBER OF TELEX PORTS AND NEED A TELEX MINISWITCH; WE SHALL NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THIS

KIND OF THING IN THE CONCENTRATOR, AND MAY HAVE A SECOND STANDALONE ALPHA. IT ALSO MAY INVOLVE

PROVISION OF SOME MEANS OF PROVIDING A REAL VIRTUAL CIRCUIT PATH FOR THE ADX'S . AS YET, MF HAVE NOT

TRIED THE VIRTUAL CICRUIT CAPABILITY OF THE ADX'S, AND IT REQUIRES A 1==1 CORRESPONDENCE OF CIRCUITS

AT EACH END; HANOVER BRINGS IN TOO MANY CIRCUITS FOR THIS TO BE ACCEPTABLE, AND SO FIRST THING IS TO

SEE WHETHER THE ADX CAN PERFORM TO ITS SPEC. PREFERABLE WOULD BE TO GET IT FIXED RATHER THAN

INTRODUCE A GLITCH INTO THE ALPHA. THE ADDITION OF HANOVER WOULD ALSO PROBABLY INVOLVE A SECOND

MACHINE AT STONELIEGH, SO IT MIGHT BE AN IDEA TO SEPARATE  TELEX FROM THE APL/HO LINE SIDE(IF ONLY

FOR EASE OF MAINTENANCE e DEBUGGING). 15] GHR IS EMPIRE-BUILDING IN GERMANY, AND KEEPS COMING UP

WITH BRIGHT NEW IDEAS, WHICH ARE DIFFICULT TO ASSESS FAIRLY WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE EMOTIONAL

STAGES. HE REGARDS GETTING OUT OF SLIGOS AS A1 PRIORITY, WHICH IN SOME DEGREE IT SHOULD BE, BUT IT'S

ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THINGS CAN'T REALLY GET WORSE, AND AT LEAST THERE IS A SERVICE, SO IT TENDS

TO GET PUSHED BACK; GETTING OUT INVOLVES TAKING ACCOUNT OF ZURICH e MILAN, AS WELL AS THINKING OF

VIENNA(BRUXELLES IS TAKEN CARE OF). HIS APPROACH IS TO TALK IN TERMS OF VIENNA==DUESS, THEN

ZURICH==VIENNA OR DOESS, AND SOME NEW DEAL WITH THE SLIGOS AGENT IN ITALY, SUCH THAT THEY ARE FED

DIRECT FROM ZURICH. FROM A TECHNICAL VIEWPOINT, I DON'T MUCH LIKE MAKING DUESS A CENTRE, AS THERE IS

NO PERMANENT TECHNICAL COMPETENCE IN DUESS(THO GHR 'S ANSWER IS TO GET SOME). COSTS ARE HIGH AND

ILLOGICAL, AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO SURVEY ALL THE ROUTE POSSIBILITIES (OR BUY LOGICA's

FAMED REPORT?). I ALSO AM MORE THAN MILDLY DUBIOUS ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE ITALIAN COMPANY

INVOLVED, WHO ARE A SECOND BEST TO SLIGOS.  ARGUING THE POINTS WITH GHR TENDS TO KEEP COMING TO THE

EMOTIONAL ISSUES.  I CAN'T SEE WHY A SMOOTH TAKEOVER TO AN IPSA PARIS COY(WHICH GHR PLANS ANYWAY)

CAN'T BE ENGINEERED WITHOUT MAJOR REROUTES AT THE SAME TIME. ANYWAY, WE'LL MAYBE HAMMER THAT OUT

WHEN IPS COMES ACROSS IN JULY.

  DATEX IS ANOTHER GHR HAPPENING. DIALLUP COSTS ARE VERY HIGH IN GERMANY, AND OF COURSE HE WANTS TO

SPREAD ALL OVER: THE PTT OVERS A SERVICE OF 200BD DIALLUP(GEARED TO SIEMENS, I SUPPOSE) FOR DATA; I

STRONGLY SUSPECT IT'S TELEX BASED, AND HAVE TOLD GHR THERE COULD BE ALL KINDS OF MINOR, BUT

FRUSTRATING PROBLEMS, IN TRYING TO GET THE INTERFACE (e BREAK ETC) TO WORK, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT

RESOURCES AT THE MOMENT. HE IS ANYWAY INVESTIGATING ON HIS OWN.

   I HAD A REQUEST TO PROVIDE CARD READER FACILITIES IN GERMNY TOO, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER MATTER...





NO. 323884 FILED  4.52.02  WED  8 JUL 1977

FROM GHR

TO   SKO

CC   EBI FJP GFO IPS RDM TYM



UNLES FJP SCREAMS TOO LOUDLY PSE ORDER A 2400 M102 CIRCUIT TO VIENNA

TERMINATING IN 4;RECHTE WIENZEILE 5/II VIENNA.. ROBBIE





NO. 334054 FILED   7.27.08  THU 23 JUN 1977

FROM FJP

TO   RDM

CC   GFO



RE IDEA ON DUESS==LONE DIRECT. I'M NOT ENTHUSIASTIC, THO WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT.

REMEMBER THAT THE FOLLOWING PLANS ARE ALREADY IN THE OFFING:

1] ASD==BRUSSELLS WITHIN A MONTH OR SO

2] DUESS==VIENNA  ...SEPTEMBER?

3] SOMEHOW, GET OUT OF SLIGOS. SO 6 e23 HAVE TO BE RE ALIGNED, PLUS POSSIBLY MILAN.



  ON 3] , MASSEY WOULD BE PREPARED TO ALLOW US TO HOUSE A MACHINE ON THEIR PREMISES IN PARIS. WE THEN HAVE

SEVERAL POSSIBILITIES:

   A] ORDER DRUSSELLS==MF PARIS (RELATIVELY CHEAP) AS THE WAY IN THERE, MILAN==MF PARIS IF WE REQUIRE IT.

   B] ZURICH==MF PARIS, TOGETHER WITH ZURICH==VIENNA; BOTH FAIRLY EXPENSIVE



VIENNA==PARIS WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN VIENNA==ZURICH. IF WE TAKE UP MF ON THEIR OFFER, WE SHOULD NOT PUT ANY MORE

THAN NECESSARY INTO PARIS, AS IT WOULD BE MOVED IN A YEAR OR SO ANYWAY. GHR SAYS SETTING UP IN FRANCE IS LONG AND COMPLICATED

(THO HE ALWAYS THINKS ALPHAS ONLY TAKE A DAY TO ORGANISE).



REASOSN I DON'T LIKE DUESS==LONE:

1] DUESS BECOMES TOO BIG, REQUIRING MANPOWER THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND. IT'S A SHITTY BASE FOR HUMAN

COMMUNICATIONS ANYWHERE ELSE IN EUROPE(I.E PLANES ETC).

2] ASD IS ALREADY BECOMING BIG, AND CERTAINLY NEEDS MANPOWER ATTENTION. DO WE WANT 2 LARGE NODES FAIRLY CLOSE

   (BUT NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO MAKE CONTROL OF BOTH FROM ONE PLACE EASY)?

3] I THINK IT'LL BE MANY MONTHS BEFORE LONE SETTLES DOWN INTO STABLE GEOGRAPHY, AND DON'T LIKE ADDED COMPLICATIONS

   IN THE FORM OF ANOTHER HS LINK.

4] ON THE LONE==ASD==DUESS PATH, ASD==DUESS IS LEAST RELIABLE (IT'S DOWN AS I WRITE THIS). GERMANY HAS THE APPARENT

   HABIT OF LOSIMG ALL ITS CIRCUITS AT ONCE(AT LEAST 'MAJOR INTERNATIONAL FAILURE' IS A STANDARD EXCUSE). RX HAVE

   MENTIONED THE SAME PROBLEM TO ME.

5] WHATEVER GHR SAYS, I STILL SAY THE GERMAN PTT ARE THE PIGS OF EUROPE. ALSO AMONG THE MOST EXPENSIVE. IF WE WANT

   TO USE THE UMM, IT'LL ATKE ANOTHER YEAR THERE.

6] ANYONE CAN FONE THE PTT IN ASD AND MOAN AND BE UNDERSTOOD. IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK GERMAN, YOU ARE COMPLETELY SUNK

  IN GERMANY (AND I MEAN SUNK). I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR. YOU FOLKS OVER THERE CAN'T UNDERSTAND

  THE FRUSTRATIONS OF TRYING TO EXPLAIN A TECHNICAL PROBLEM TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. (MAYBE QUEBEC

  PEOPLE KNOW WHAT I MEAN).



 I CAN CERTAINLY SEE THE ADVANTAGES YOU'RE TRYING TO GET. WHEN AUTO REROUTE WORKS, I THINK WE SHOULD RECONSIDER

ASD==YYZ, OR DUESS==YYZ, AS A REPLACEMENT FOR DP4.  CERTAINLY DUESS HAS PROBABLY THE HEAVIEST TRAFFIC LOAD OF

ANY NON-UK NODE IN EUROPE;  I WOULDN'T HOWEVER RECKON TOO MUCH ON LVP/RX AS BEING A LONGTERM SOURCE OF THAT

LOAD. EXPANSION IN GERMANY TO REPLACE RX LOADING WOULD BE HORRIFYINGLY EXPENSIVE, BOTH FROM A COMMS VIEWPOINT

AND IN TERMS OF THE STAFF COSTS ON THE APL SUPPORT SIDE(AN OFFICE MANAGER CAN EXPECT AT LEAST $45K+ A MERCEDES).



NO. 345506 FILED 22.39.32  THU  7 JUL 1977

FROM RDM

TO   NETI



THE FOLLOWING NODES HAVE BEEN PLANNED FOR SOME UNKNOWN DATE.  COULD THE RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS PLEASE

SUPPLY ESTIMATED INSTALLATION DATES?

36 BIRMINGHAM

34 BRUSSELS

31 APRILIA

42 STAMFORD

40 WASHINGTON,DC

UNNUMBERED CDN NODES:  EDMONTON, OTTAWA, MONTREAL

VIENNA?

ALSO ANY OTHER NODES WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN PLANNED FOR INSTALLATION IN 1977 BUT WHICH ARE NOT IN THIS LIST

SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED.



NO. 345722 FILED  7.27.49  FRI  8 JUL 1977

FROM FJP

TO   RDM

CC   NETI



VIENNA:    DUESS LINE 2     NOT BEFORE SEPTEMBER.

FOR MF, THE FOLLOWING ARE UNDER DISCUSSION, AND LIKELY TO BE FIRMLY ORDERED: I HAVEN'T COMMITTED TIMESCALES

ON OUR PART, SO DATES ARE THOSE MF WOULD LIKE:



STONELIEGH MACHINE 2    :   AS SOON AS REQUIRED FROM FOLLOWING INSTALLATIONS.

LUCERNE ==STONELIEGH         SEPTEMBER 77

HANOVER==STONELIEGH          DECEMBER 77

PETERBOROUGH==STONELIEGH     JANUARY 78

LONDON(MF)==STONELIEGH(WITH SPUR TO WATFORD HARDWIRED ONLY AT FIRST)     FEBRUARY 78

STONELIEGH ABBEY==STONELIEGH   SUMMER 78

   [THIS WILL IN LARGE PART REPLACE NODE 12, WHICH WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO MF OWNERSHIP] WE MAY REQUIRE NODE 12A FOR IPSA USE.



MF MAY ALSO PROVIDE A VEHICLE FOR GETTING OUT FROM SLIGOS, IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD HAVE A PARIS[MF]==IPSA LONE TEMPORARILY WHILE

FULL REMOVAL IS ORGANISED.

     BRUSSELS SHOULD BE WITHIN ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW.

(ASD LINE 4)





NO. 3611532 FILED 11.45.17  FRI 29 JUL 1977

FROM FJP

TO   IPS RDM



I'M GETTING A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC SITUATION/TRADE UNION POSITION IN THE UK.

THE MINERS ARE AFTER 95j|j INCREASES( 'TO TAKE THEM ONLY WHERE THEY WERE  3 YEARS AGO'), AND POWER

WORKERS ARE TALKING ABOUT 135j|j. THE BANDWAGON IS STARTING TO ROLL(AND OFFICIALLY IT WILL DO SO FROM

MONDAY 1ST AUG, WHEN ALL PAY RESTRAINT IS TERMINATED.

   WHILE I THINK THE UK IS BY FAR THE OPTIMUM PLACE TO HAVE T/A LINES INTO EUROPE, THE THOUGHT OF THE MESS WE'D BE

IN IF HIT BY STRIKES/POWER CUTS THERE IS A BIT FRIGHTENING. WE'D NEED HALF OF BUCK HOUSE TO GET A GENERATOR BIG ENOUGH

TO POWER ALL THOSE ALPHAS AND MODEMS. I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD MAKE CONTINGENCY PLANS. WE CAN EITHER:

1] GET A GENERATOR BIG ENOUGH TO POWER MINIMAL MODEM+ALPHA REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP THE LONDON SWITCHING FUNCTION RUNNING

2] INSTALL ANOTHER T/A LINE: ASD FOR EASE OF INSTALLATION+RUNNING, DUESS FOR NETWORK LOGICALITY(OR MYBE ZURICH/VIENNA

   IF THE COST WASN'T PROHIBITIVE, WHICH IT IS)

3] ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH TYMNET/TELENET FOR A SYNCH CONNECTION IN PARIS OR ASD, WHICH WE SHALL SET UP BUT NOT USE

   EXCEPT FOR INSURANCE

4] TRY PUSHING A LITTLE HARDER FOR PERMISSION TO USE MF LINE FOR BACKUP, AND LINK TO MF IN EUROPE/UK. WITH A SUITABLE

   AGREEMENT WITH THEM.



NONE OF THE ABOVE IS EITHER PARTICULARLY EASY OR CHEAP. WE CAN ALTERNATIVELY CARRY ON AND KEEP PRAYING. ANY THOUGHTS?





NO. 396990 FILED 16.48.41  FRI 16 SEP 1977

FROM RDM

TO   FJP

CC   JAG



RE VIENNA PROMISES:  JULY-AUG 1977 NEWSLETTER (PRINTED TWO DAYS AGO) PAGE EIGHT:

AFTER GIVING LOCATION ETC OF WEIN OFFICE:

'LOCAL DIAL ACCESS WILL BECOME AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER - ALSO IN BRUSSELS.  OUR CONCENTRATOR SYSTEMS

HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN BOTH OFFICES, PROVING OUR USUAL AUTOSPEED FACILITY.'



     THIS CONFLICTS WITH PAGE SEVEN OF THE NEWSLETTER WHICH IS A NETMAP PICTURE WHICH DOES

NOT SHOW VIENNA.  OBSERVE THAT WE CANNOT ADD VIENNA TO ROUTE TABLES AS NODE SEVEN WOULD THEN BE NON-RELOADABLE

WITH ITS PRESENT CONFIGURATION.

     PERHAPS WE SHOULD CLAIM THERE WAS A MINOR TYPO AND THAT FOR 'VIENNA' READ 'OTTAWA'.





NO. 404512 FILED  4.07.52  TUE 27 SEP 1977

FROM GHR

TO   FJP GFO RDM TYM



I THINK ALL IS NOW ORGANISED FOR VIENNA.

I SAY 'THINK' BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT DEALING WITH A BUNDESPOST WHICH FINISHES

WORK AT 1530 APART FROM FRIDAYS WHEN IT FINISHES AT LUNCHTIME,

AND WHERE ONE DEPT ASSURES ME ALL IS

IN ORDER AND ANOTHER ONE HAS NEVER HEARD OF US.

THE ROLL UP PROBLEM IS SOLVED EXCEPT THAT WE CANNOT GET THE WHOLE 8 NUMBERS

ON THE SAME ROLL UP AND WILL HAVE TO MAKE DO WITH 2 ROLLUPS OF

FOUR NUMBERS..... THEN THAT'S THE OLDIE WORLDIE ATTITUDE TO LIFE IN WIEN.

ANYWAY .

1] THE POWER INSTALLATION HAS BEEN ORDERED.WITH 10 SOCKETS.

2]HIGH AND LOW SPEED MODEMS ARE ON ORDER FROM ITT

3]AN ORDER WILL BE PLACED TODAY FROR THE LOCAL LINE INSTALLTION WITH THE

BUNDESPOST. THEY SAY THEY NEED ONLY ONE WEEK.

A SET OF KEYS IS AVAILABLE WITH OUR TEMPORARY LEGALLY REQUIRED

AUSTRIAN GESCHAEFTSFUEHRER

   DR OTTO LEISSINGER

   RATIO GES MBH

   HERMANGASSE 3

   7 WIEN

   AUSTRIA

PHONE NO 43 222 93 06 21.

HE SPEAKS GOOD ENGLISH

4]

A FURTHER SET OF KEYS WILL BE HANDED IN TO THE LONDON OFFICE FOR TYM

THIS THURSDAY COMING.

5]

MRL IS ALSO IN THE PICTURE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HELP IN MY ABSENCE.

6]THERE IS STILL NO FIRM NEWS FROM THE BUNDESPOST RE COMMISSIONING OF THE M102 CIRCUIT.. R

ROBBIE



NO. 405794 FILED  8.34.19  WED 28 SEP 1977

FROM FJP

TO   CHIV SCR TYM

CC   ASO BERT RDM



A COUPLE OF CRITICAL PATH POINTS ON THE WAY TO VIENNA:

DUESS MUST BE CHANGED SO THAT IT RUNS 16K MEMORY. TO SUPPORT THE SECOND LINE, I SUGGEST A UMM IS INSTALLED,

REPLACING THE CURRENT SMC AND DOING BOTH JOBS. THE PHASE OF DUESS THEN HAS TO BE CHANGED TO '60 BIGHOUMM'.

BERT e ASO FROM ASD CAN DO THE INSTALLATION, BUT WE HAVE NO SPARE MEMORY HERE.



SINCE ASD IS DUE A CHASSIS FROM LONE [REMEMBER??] IT MIGHT BE AN IDEA TO SEND IT WITH A MEMORY, AND LET ASO^BERT DO

THE WORK FOR DUESS.

   THERE IS STILL NO EXPECTED DATE FOR THE HIGHSPEED LINE TO VIENNA. THE 2400 MODEM FOR THERE WILL BE SUPPLIED LOCALLY

BY ITT, AND IS ALLEGED TO BE TOTALLY RACAL ETC COMPATIBLE. SO A 24/26 LSI FOR DUESS SHOULD BE ADEQUATE.



  IT IS ALSO DESIRABLE THAT ZURICH HAS ITS 8K MEMORY REPLACED BY A 16K ONE. THIS WOULD COMPLETE

ELIMINATION OF THE NEED FOR A EUR8K PHASE COMPLETELY.



NO. 424654 FILED  6.21.09  FRI 28 OCT 1977

FROM TYM

TO   GSO

CC   CHIV FJP RDM



GEOFF... WHAT YOU SUGGEST IS POSSIBLE BUT WOULD INVOLVE THE FOLLOWING STEPS

AND WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE NO SERVICE IN THE UK NODES  AT ALL.

WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF A POWER STRIKE AFFECTING ALL OF THE UK OFFICES?

A] ONE COULD CONNECT ONLY 1 4 WIRE CCT TO EUROPE TO THE END OF EACH T/A LINE.

B] AT THE MOMENT THE 3705 LOOKS FOR BOTH NODE 6 + NODE 5 DOWN THE SAME T/A LINE

   THEREFORE ITS ROUTE TABLES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PATCHED TO REFLECT THE MOVE OF

   PARIS OR ASD.

NOTE THAT WE ARE CLASSED AND GIVEN PRIORITY,SUCH AS THERE IS, AS A COMPUTER INSTALLATION

WITH THE LEB , NOT THAT THIS WOULD PROTECT US IF THERE EVER WERE MASSIVE CUTS ACROSS ALL SECTORS IN LONDON,

AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE POWER SUPPLIES.

ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS A POWER SUPPLY THAT CAN GIVE A CONSTANT LEVEL WITH

AN OUTPUT OF AROUND 3 KVA.

THE GENERATOR WEINHERITED FROM DFBOOTH   IS PROBABLY SUFFICIENTLY POWERFUL TO DRIVE 1 CHASSIS

THAT COULD BE USED TO SUPPORT 5 HO LINES HOWEVER WHETHER THE VOLTAGE  PRODUCED

IS STEADY ENOUGH NOT TO PRODUCE MULTIPLE POWER FAIL RESTARTS IS ANOTHER MATTER.





NO. 426893 FILED  5.41.25  WED 2 NOV 1977

FROM FJP

TO   RDM



 I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR HINDIS CHANGES.

I HAD HOPED DUESS UPGRADE WOULD'VE BEEN DONE WHILE I WAS AWAY, BUT IT NOW HAS HIGH PRIORITY.

ZURICH IS APPARENTLY RUNNING 16K, SO WHEN DUESS IS CHANGED (I PROPOSE PUTTING UMM IN TO HANDLE

SECOND LINE FOR VIENNA), THAT SHOULD END NEED FOR EUR8K.





NO. 428179 FILED  5.25.24  FRI  4 NOV 1977

FROM GHR

TO   FJP GFO RDM TYM



JUST HEARD THAT THE AUSTRIAN PTT WILL COMMISSION THE DUESS WIEN LINK NEXT

WEDNESDAY... WILL RING TYM FROM DUESS ON MONDAY... ROBBIE



NO. 428871 FILED  3.45.41  MON  7 NOV 1977

FROM FJP

TO   ASO

CC   RDM TYM



THIS WEEKEND, I SHALL BRING ACROSS NECESSARY HARDWARE TO UPGRADE DUESSELDORF TO A BIGSITE

PHASE. PERHAPS YOU AND BERT COULD PLAN ON GOING THERE EARLY NEXT WEEK TO DO THE OPERATION?

WE'LL CONFIRM DATES LATER THIS WEEK, AS IT WOULD BE DESIRABLE THAT YOU WERE IN DUESS AT

THE SAME TIME AS SOMEONE IS IS VIENNA ATTEMPTING TO BRING THAT MACHINE UP.

    DUESS SHOULD AT THE SAME TIME BE CHANGED TO RUN A UMM FOR THE FIRST 2 SYNCH LINES. YOU

MIGHT CARE TO EXPERIMENT WITH JUMPERING ETC. (I CAN'T HELP FEELING THE UMM MANUAL IS WRITTEN

IN A SLIGHTLY IRISH FASHION W.R.T. JUMPERING/PATCHING, BUT ACCEPT IT'S PROBABLY HARDWARE

CONSTRAINTS.



NO. 438733 FILED 11.16.37  THU 24 NOV 1977

FROM GHR

TO   ASO CHIV FJP GFO RDM TYM



VIENNA

THE REFERENCE FOR THE DUESS VIENNA CIRCUIT IS 557.

OFFICE FONES (PRESUMABLY UNMANNED)  576571/2

WE HAVE HAD TO HAVE 2 ROLL UP GROUPS.

561501 THRU 4

AND 563696 THRU 9.

WE ARE ONLY GOING TO INSTALL 4 LS MODEMS INITIALLY

AND WE DO NOT KNOW YET

WHICH OF THE 2 GROUPS WILL BE OPERATIONAL.. ROBBIE



NO. 439510 FILED  9.11.13  MON 28 NOV 1977

FROM ASO

TO   BERT FJP

CC   RDM



ON PHYSICALLY LOOPING BACK THE LINE THE LINE STATUS CHANGES FROM A :0003 TO A :0002.

HOWEVER IT DOESNT GIVE A MESSAGE 2, AND THERE ARE NO RECEIVE INTERRUPTS. THE

RECEIVE CLOCK IS OK, AND SO IS THE TX CLOCK. THE LINE IS LEFT IN LOOPBACK.

WITHOUT THE CURRENT LISTINGS IT IS SORT OF DIFFICULT TO ANALYSE THE SITUATION FURTHER.

THE RETURN ADDRESS OF THE LINE 1 (IE THE LINE IN LB) JST IN THE I.V. LOOKS VERY ODD.

I SUGGEST THAT SOMEONE WITH THE LISTINGS LOOK IN NODE 7  AND IT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE TO

SORT IT OUT BY THE TIME THAT  THE H.W.ARRIVES IN VIENNA.



NO. 439792 FILED 14.55.53  MON 28 NOV 1977

FROM RDM

TO   ASO BERT FJP

CC   GHR MDH



GHR HAS DETERMINED THAT LINE TWO IN DUSSELDORF IS STRAPPED CORRECTLY BUT HAS SOME MALFUNCTION.

GHR HAS MOVED THE VIENNA CABLE OVER TO HOLINE THREE WHICH DID PRODUCE A SATISFACTORY LOOPBACK INDICATION.

THIS SUGGESTS THAT THERE IS SOME PHYSICAL DEFECT IN THE SECOND LINE (LINE ONE IN ZERO ORIGIN).

THERE IS NO GREAT URGENCY TO REPAIR AS GHR HAS MOVED THE CABLE AND I HAVE ALTERED THE ROUTE TABLES

TO SHOW VIENNA SERVICED VIA 703 RATHER THAN 702.



NO. 440858 FILED  9.13.50  WED 30 NOV 1977

FROM DUS

TO   ASO FJP GFO RDM TYM



GOT THE FOLLOWING MSG.



THE AUSTRIAN WAR IS ABOUT TO BREAK OUT AGAIN. ROBBIE IS SITTING IN THE VIENNA OFFICE, SURROUNDED BY

8 VOICE TELEPHONES, 1 INTERNATIONAL CIRCUIT, 4 LS MODEMS, 1 HS MODEM AND NOT A DATA SET INSIDE.

HAVE ALREADY TOLD TYM TO POSTPONE HIS DEPARTURE....ANGELIKA



NO. 441519 FILED  5.43.24  THU  1 DEC 1977

FROM DUS

TO   TYM

CC   ASO FJP GFO RDM



THIS MSG FROM ROBBIE IN VIENNA:

THE AUSTRIAN PTT WILL INSTALL THE DATASETS NEXT MONDAY.

FOR TIM: THE EARLIEST GHR CAN BE IN VIENNA NEXT, IS ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.

/MRL FOR GHR IN VIENNA





NO. 441718 FILED 10.28.44  THU  1 DEC 1977

FROM GSO

TO   RDM

CC   FJP TYM



BPR COMMCEN NOW LOOKING QUITE TIDY I INTEND TO TURN MY ATTENTION TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE COMS SOFTWARE. I WISH TO GET THE FEEL

OF HANDLING ALROUTE TOMORROW BY DOING A FEW OPERATIONS ON THE (AS YET) EXISTANT VIENNA NODE. PLEASE MAILBOX ME IF THERE IS ANY

OBJECTION TO THIS. I WILL DO NOTHING UNTIL I HEAR FROM YOU. GEOFF





NO. 447433 FILED 11.21.30  TUE 13 DEC 1977

FROM FJP

TO   RDM



IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE VIENNA SAGA; LATEST

STORY IS THAT THERE ARE NOW NO LOW SPEED DATASETS IN VIENNA. GHR HAS SUGGESTED

WE ABANDON PLANS FOR TRIPS TO THERE BEFORE THE NEW YEAR.



NO. 451774 FILED  9.39.17  THU 22 DEC 1977

FROM GHR

TO   TYM

CC   DUS FJP GFO MRL RDM



BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE AUSTRIAN PTT HAS TODAY INSTALLED THE DATA SETS,

THE LS MODEMS HAVE BEEN TESTED AND THE a DELIVERED TO THE OFFICE.

SO WHEN DO YOU WANT TO GO AND INSTALL.

AS  I SAID YOU WILL NEED A GERMAN SPEAKER AND AS MRL IS ON HOLIDAY

I'LL HAVE TO BE THERE.THE BEST DAY FOR ME WOULD BE JAN 4TH. ROBBIE





NO.  452831 FILED  6.16.26  WED 28 DEC 1977

FROM GHR

TO   FJP TYM

CC   GFO RDM



WAT ARE THE PROSPECTS OF A HS PORT IN THE ZURICH OFFICE.

MIKE HAS PICKED UP A CONTRACT WHICH WILL REQUIRE SIMULATED HSP.

WE COULD LOAN THEM THE TERMINET FROM THE DUESS OFFICE.



IF POSS COULD YOU DO IT ON YOUR TRIP TO VIENNA? ROBBIE





NO. 452848 FILED  8.16.49  WED 28 DEC 1977

FROM TYM

TO   GHR

CC   FJP GFO RDM



IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PHYSICALLY FAIRLY EASY TO CONVERT THE 8TH PORT

AT ZUR INTO, SAY, 1200 BAUD OR POSSIBLY INSTALL A SMALL SWITCH TO SWITCH 1 OF THE

CLKS TO THIS PORT BETWEEN 300 + 1200 BAUD.

THE SOFTWARE HOWEVER WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO TREAT THIS PORT, WHATEVER THE SPEED AS LO PRIORITY.

IN ADDITION THE HI SPEED LINE IS RUNNING ON 2400 SO WITH THIS TERMINET PRINTING CONTINUOUSLY

AND A NUMBER OF ZURICH USERS ON, THE RESPONSE EXPERIENCED THERE WOULD BE DEGRADED SOMEWHAT

ALTHOUGH THIS MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM IF YOU ONLY USE THE TERMINET LATE IN THE AFTERNOON OR EVENING.



TO YOUR PREVIOUS MSG:  COULD YOU POSSIBLY REMOVE THE LOOP AT

THE DUSS END OF THE LINE TO VIENNA (DP ?) AND WE MAY POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO TELL

SOMETHING ABOUT ITS CONDITION FROM HERE IF IT IS IN LOOPBACK AS YOU SAY AT THE

VIENNA END.





NO. 452884 FILED 10.16.07  WED 28 DEC 1977

FROM GHR

TO   TYM

CC   FJP GFO RDM



THE LAST TIME I WAS IN THE VIENNA OFFICE THE LINE WAS DEFINITELY IN LOOPBACK.

HOWEVER SINCE THEN THE LS MODEMS HAVE BENN TESTED AND I DO NOT KNOW THE CURRENT

SITUATION.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IN ZURICH IS PRECISELY WHAT WE HAVE IN DUESS..IE THE FCILITY

TO SELECT EITHER 1200 OR 300 ON THE LAST PORT. PLUS THE LO PRIORITY SOFTWARE.

HOWEVER IF WE CAN GET AN INTERIM INSTALLATION WITHOUT THE LATTER FACILITY

THAT WOULD HELP MIKE. WE WOULD OF COURSE ONLY USE THE 1200 BAUD AT TIMES OF LOW

PORT OCCUPANCY... ROBBIE

PS HAVE JUST REMOVED THE LOOP BACK AT THE DUESS END OF THE VIENNA CIRCUIT AND

CONNECTED DUESS WITH VIENNA.





NO. 460648 FILED 13.41.18  TUE 17 JAN 1978

FROM FJP

TO   RDM



 LATEST ON THE VIENNA SAGA: THE MACHINE IS INSTALLED AND APPEARS TO BE RUNNING SATISFACTORILY.

HOWEVER, NEITHER END WAS SEEING CARRIER FROM THE OTHER END. AFTER MUCH TROUBLE, TYM/GHR GOT

THE PTT'S TO HAVE A LOOK AT IT (LACK OF A LINE REFERENCE COMPLICATED THINGS). TYM FINALLY HAD

THEM SAY (AFTER BOTH ENDS' LOCAL TAILS WERE CHECKED OUT) 'ALTHOUGH THE LINE WAS ON ORDER, IT

WAS NOT YET INSTALLED. WE PLAN TESTING IT THIS FRIDAY WHEN INSTALLATION SHOULD BE COMPLETE'.

   TYM WAS LAST HEARD TRYING TO GET HOLD OF ROBBIE.

   AH WELL, AT LEAST OUR INSTALLATIONS REQUIRE A FEW LESS TRIPS THAN THOSE ON MASSEY SUBNET.





NO. 460965 FILED  4.09.57  WED 18 JAN 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP RDM TYM



THE BATTLE WITH THE AUSTRIAN TELEGRAPHENBAUAMT IS STILL NOT REALLY OVER.

I HAVE JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT THEY DO NOT SUPPLY AUTOMATIC ANSWERING

DATA SETS.. HOEWEVER WE CAN HAVE AN ANSWERING MACHINE.

ANYONE WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR A SPELL OF PRESING RED KNOBS EACH TIME A CUSTOMER

WANTS TO SIGN ON... ROBBIE





NO. 460968 FILED  4.24.19  WED 18 JAN 1978

FROM FJP

TO   RDM



I FORGOT TO ADD THAT ANOTHER DETAIL LACKING IN VIENNESE WHIRL WAS THAT OF AUTOANSWER FONES.

THE ONES WE HAVE ARE THE 'PUSH FOR DATA' NON AUTOANSWER TYPE. I DISPUTE GHR'S THEORY THAT

AUTOANSWER CAN'T BE SUPPLIED, ON THE GROUNDS THAT THE AUSTRIANS DO SUBSCRIBE TO CCITT.

  I CAN ONLY HOPE THE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN ONE OF LANGUAGE DIFFICULTY (THERE ARE MIXED

OPINION'S ON ROBBIE'S GERMAN FLUENCY LEVEL.  WILL INVESTIGATE FURTHER.





NO. 460980  4.32.50  WED 18 JAN 1978

FROM FJP

TO   GHR

CC   RDM TYM



I RATHER DOUBT, WITH RESPECT, YOUR STATEMENT THAT AUSTRIA WON'T SUPPLY AUTOANSWER. AUTOSWITCH

TO LINE IN PRESENCE OF DTR+RING CURRENT IS A STANDARD CCITT RECOMMENDATION, AND AUSTRIA, AS A SUBSCRIBER

TO CCITT, SHOULD REALLY FEEL CONSTRAINED TO MAKE AVAILABLE(OR ALLOW CONNECTION OF) SUCH EQUIPMENT,

IF IT'S CLAIMING TO OFFER A DATA SERVICE.

  COULD THIS BE A LANGUAGE DIFFICULTY? WE CAN GIVE YOU THE REQUIRMENTS IN TERMS OF CCITT NUMBERS ETC,

WHICH MAY MAKE MORE SENSE TO THE GNOMES.





NO. 462344 FILED  5.46.37  FRI 20 JAN 1978

FROM GHR

TO   MRL TYM

CC   FJP GFO RDM



HAVE JUST HEARD THAT ITT HAVE NOW SET THE VIENNA LS MODEMS TO AUTOMATIC ANSWER,

THE  VIENNESE BUNDESPOST HAVE NOW AGREED TO COMMISSION THE LINE TO DUESS. AND 

WILL BE COLLECTING THE KEYS FROM RATIO.

HOPEFULLY IT WILL NOT BE NECESSARY FOR ANYONE TO GO TO VIENNA ESPECIALLY.

ROBBIE





NO. 467555 FILED  8.09.10  WED  1 FEB 1978

FROM GHR

TO   DUS FJP GFO MRL RDM TYM

CC   ASO



HAVE JUST HEARD THAT THE BUNDESPOST WILL BE IN THE DUESS OFFICE NEXT FRIDAY DOING SOME MEASUREMNTS ON THE

VIENNA LINK.

THEY ARE PARTICULARLY PISSED OFF WITH THE AUSTRIAN BUNDESPOST AS GERMANY HAS HAD THE CIRCUIT READY FOR

COMMISSIONING SINCE NOV 13 TH.





NO. 468914 FILED  4.06.04  FRI  3 FEB 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP GFO MRL RDM TYM



THE BUNDESPOST ARE CONDITIONING THE VIENNA CIRCUIT RIGHT NOW... ROBBIE





NO. 470849 FILED 13.36.35  TUE  7 FEB 1978

FROM TYM

TO   DUS MRL

CC   FJP RDM



OK MIKE

ASSUMING THEREFORE THAT THE LINEUP WIEN==DUSS WAS SUCCESSFUL

THE ORANGE LOOPBACK PLUG SHOULD BE IN THE WALL AT WIEN.

I DON'T THINK IT IS AT PRESENT AS I COULD HAVE SEEN THE EFFECTS ON THE

DUSS MACHINE.

THEREFORE WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO ASK HERR. VASHYRA TO CHECK THIS?

AT THE SAME TIME POSSIBLY ANGELIKA COULD ENSURE THAT THERE IS A CABLE

RUNNING FROM THE CONCENTRATOR TO THE RACAL-MILGO 24LSI MODEM CONECTED

TO THE VIENNA LINE...?

WHEN THE LOOP IS APPLIED BY THE PLUG IN VIENNA ,I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE

PACKETS SENT + RETURNED FROM THE VIENNA OFFICE LOOP.

I CAN CHECK THIS FROM LONDON.

WHEN THIS OCCURS  ANGELIKA SHOULD SEE  ' SIGNAL DETECT' ON THE FRONT OF THE

RACAL-MILGO MODEM ILLUMINATED. ONCE THAT IS ESTABLISHED THE FINAL a CONNECTION

CAN BE MADE.





NO. 474861 FILED 12.35.34  WED 15 FEB 1978

FROM FJP

TO   RDM

APND 474693



I ALMOST DESPAIR...



[ORIGINATED BY MRL  URG. NO. 474693 FILED  9.28.03  WED 15 FEB 1978]

TO   GHR

CC   FJP TYM



RE: D'DORF == VIENNA LINE

AFTER TALKING TO DIPL. ING. WIEN OF THE AUSTRIAN PTT I WAS AMAZED TO LEARN THAT

EVEN THOUGHT THE LINE HAD BEEN TESTED ON 23.1.1978 SUCCESSFULLY, THAT THEY (=THE AUSTRIAN

PTT) CANNOT RELEASE THE LINE BECAUSE THERE IS A PRIVATE HIGH SPEED MODEM ON THE D'DORF END.

PLEASE RESOLVE THIS. OTHERWISE, THE LINE SEEMS TO BE OK. /MIKE





NO. 475211 FILED  4.38.50  THU 16 FEB 1978

FROM GHR

TO   MRL

CC   FJP GFO RDM TYM



HAVE SPOKEN TO THE BUNDESPOST RE THE MODEM PROBLEM.

THEY SAY THEY HAVE NO INFLUENCE OVER THE AUSTRIAN PTT BUT THEY

WILL TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO.. IT IS RIDICULOUS AND

THE BUNDESPOST AGREE,THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONCERNE

 AS TO WHAT MODEM IS ON THE VIENNA/DUESS LINE.

THE FTZ NUMBER FOR THE RACAL MILGO LSI 24 IS:

FTZ A538 106/766A83.

IF THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS MODEM WHAT ARE THEY GOING

SAY ABOUT THE MODEMS IN A'DAM.LONDON AND TORONTO???.

WIL YOU RING YOUR CONTACT WIEN IN WIEN AND ASK HIM WHAT THE HELL AND

ALSO WHICH MODEM IS OK?... ROBBIE





NO. 478340 FILED 11.08.00  WED 22 FEB 1978

FROM FJP

TO   RDM TYM

CC   GHR



GHR CALLED TO TELL ME NEXT HOPEFUL DAY FOR VIENNA IS IN 3 DAYS TIME. THE 2 MAN PTT IN AUSTRIA

HAS HAD PROBLEMS: THE GUY GIVING APPROVAL FOR THE ALPHA HAS BEEN AT DEATH'S DOOR FOR A FEW WEEKS,

SO COULDN'T PROGRESS OUR BIT. NOW THAT'S OK, BUT THE GUY WHO HAS TO LINE UP THE CIRCUIT IS UNAVAILABLE

FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

   THEY MUST BE TWO PRETTY VALUABLE FELLOWS IN AUSTRIA...





NO. 478966 FILED 10.30.22  THU 23 FEB 1978

FROM FJP

TO   IPS

CC   RDM



I THINK WE ALL ASSUMED ORDERING OF A LINE FROM ASD OR DUES== ZURICH WOULD COME THIS YEAR: ONE FACTOR DELAYING THIS

IS THE DIFFICULTIES OF CURRENT ALPHA SOFTWARE HANDLING THE THEN DOUBLE LOOP NETWORK. THINGS COULD IN FACT BE MADE

A BIT SIMPLER BY NOT RECOGNISING THE THING AS A LOOP, BUT SIMPLY 'MOVE' ZURICH AS REQUIRED. ASD IS PROBABLY THE

BEST FROM THE NETWORK MANAGEMENT POINT OF VIEW, BUT DUES/VIENNA HAVE FACTORS IN THEIR FAVOUR.  POLITICALLY IT WOULD

SEEM THAT A THRID T/A CABLE SHOULD GO TO FRNACE, BUT FROM MANAGEMENT CONSIDERATIONS, ASD IS MORE SENSIBLE, EXCEPT

THAT ONE WOULD PROBABLY COME THRU THE UK (FRENCH ONE WOULDN'T).

   MAYBE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH ASD==ZURICH ANYWAY, EVEN THO ITKS EXPENSIVE.



NO. 479390 FILED  3.40.57  FRI 24 FEB 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP GFO MRL RDM TYM



THE COMEDY CONTINUES...

THE TECHNICAL MAN IN VIENNA CAN ONLY BE REACHED BETWEEEN 0700 AND 0800HRS.

I SPOKE TO HIM THIS MORNING AND HE SAID HE HAD SPENT ALL LAST WEEK TRYING TO CONTACT

HIS OPPOSITE NUMBER IN DUESSELDORF. LAST FRIDAY I GOT THE MESSAGE IN REVERS FROM

DUESELDORF.

HOWEVER VIENNA CAN DO THE END TO END MEASUREMENTS NEXT MONDAY MARCH 6TH

..PROVIDED VIENNA AND DUESSELDORF CAN FINALLY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER.

IT IS PITY THEY AREN'T IN THE COMMS BUSINESS, THEN  THEY COULD USE A TELEPHONE.

THE CONTACT IN VIENNA SPEAKS ONLY GERMAN BUT HE DOES KNOW WHERE THE KEY IS

AND ALSO THAT HE HAS TO INVOLVE ITT...

WHO  IF ANYONE IS GOING TO GO TO VIENNA OR SHOULD WE LEAVE IT TO THEM... ROBBIE

PS THE VIENNESE GUY ASSURED ME THE POLITICAL PROBLEMS WERE SOLVED BY MY LAST VISIT.



NO. 479403 FILED  4.31.56  FRID 24 FEB 1978

FROM FJP

TO   RDM



I KEPT ON THROWING AWAY ALL MESSAGES ON THE VIENNA SAGA, AS IT SEEMED TO BE OVER SO OFTEN. I GUESS THE GUINNES BOOK OF

RECORDS WOULD BE INTERESTED IF WE COULD RESURRECT THEM.

   I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY A MEMBER OF THE OECD COMMS GROUP, WHO WANT 'EVIDENCE' OF DASTARDLY ACTIONS IN GENERAL BY

EUROPEAN PTT'S. THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO EXERT PRESSURE ON THE EEC TO CHANGE ITS APPRAOCH TO THE PTT'S. AT PRESENT, THE

TREATY OF ROME HAS A SPECIAL CLAUSE SAYING THAT THE EUROPARLIAMENT IS NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS PTT'S AT ALL. I'M ALSO 

MEETING TODAY A GUY WHOS CLAIMING TO HAVE THE FIRST SOFTWARE EVER IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS IN THE UK: HE'S A PERMANENT

CONSULTANT TO THEIR LORDSHIPS, AND IS NOW INVOLVED IN VARIOUS DISCUSSIONS REGARDING FOREIGN DATABASES THEY WANT. HE

APPARENTLY HAS THE EAR OF A FEW MP'S, AND SEES THEMSELVES IN THE AMUSING POSITION OF HAVING THE BPO TURN DOWN THEIR

LORDSHIPS REQUESTS FOR CERTAIN PTT APPLICATIONS OF NETWORKS....INTERESTING CHALLENGE TO SOVEREIGNTY. HE'S GOING TO

GIVE ME SPECS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND ASK WHAT WE RECKON IT WOULD COST US (LINESHARING) IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO

DO IT. I'M TREADING WARILY IN CASE WE COME HEAD ON WITH THE PO OVER IT, BUT HE COULD BE USEFUL CONTACT. THE PO IS

COMING UNDER A LOT OF ATTACK AT THE MOMENT: THAT NATIONAL COMMITTEE ON NETWORKING (SET UP BY GOVT) IS ASKING FOR

SUGGESTIONS FROM USERS FOR LEGISLATIVE CHANGES REQUIRED, AND THE CHAIRMAN IS VERY KEEN TO REALLY HAMMER THE PO.

ANONYMITY WITH THEM IS ASSURED, SO AGAIN, IT COULD BE A GOOD PRESSURE GROUP.



NO. 479493 FILED  8.12.42  FRI 24 FEB 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP GFO MRL RDM TYM



HAVE  HEARD FROM THE BUNDESPOST THAT THEY HAVE FINALLY MADE CONTACT

WITH AUSTRIA.. BY TELEPHONE , I BELIEVE.

SO THE PROSPECTS FOR MARCH 6TH LOOK GOOD.

ONE OTHER PIECE OF NEWS EMERGED. DURING THE LAST ATTEMPT AT CONDITIONING

THE AUSTRIAN EQUIPMENT WENT U/S AND THEY HAVE TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET

IT REPLACED... ROBBIE





NO. 479636

FROM TYM

TO   GHR

CC   FJP GFO MRL RDM



ITS PROBABLY BETTER IF WE WAIT TO SEE IF THE LINE CAN

FINALLY BE MDE TO RUN FROM THE AUSTRIAN OFFICE LOOP

TO THE DUSS OFFICE BEFORE ANYONE GOES TO THE EXPENSEE + TROUBLE

OF GOING TO VIENNA.





NO. 481035 FILED 10.49.23  TUE 28 FEB 1978

FROM GHR

TO   ASO CHIV FJP GFO LJH MRL RDM TYM



IN AGREEMENT WITH FJP I REMOVED THE ORANGE LOOP BACK PLUG AND INSERTED THE MODEM

ONE.  ROBBIE

PS IN VIENNA OF COURSE..





NO. 481439 FILED 19.46.51  TUE 28 FEB 1978

FROM RDM

TO   FJP



I AM TRYING TO FINISH A PROTOCOL CHANGE IN THE NETWORK.  ALL ACCESSIBLE NODES HAVE BEEN RELOADED

AND CAN ACCEPT EITHER OLD OR NEW PROTOCOL.  THE CURRENT PROBLEM NODES ARE 47 (LUCERNE) AND

45 (VIENNA).  I GATHER THAT LUCERNE WILL BE UP IN ABOUT A WEEK AND WILL THUS BE RELOADABLE.

MY RECORDS SHOW NO TRACE OF THE VIENNA MACHINE EVER HAVING BEEN LOADED.  I SUSPECT IT WAS

LOADED AS NODE 38 SOMETIME IN THE ANCIENT PAST.  I SUSPECT THAT IT MAY HAVE A RATHER MOLDY PHASE.

IN PARTICULAR IF IT HAS A PHASE WHICH IS OLDER THAN 11SEPT IT WILL NOT OPERATE SATISFACTORILY

WITH EVEN THE NOVEMBER PHASES.

  DO YOUR RECORDS GIVE ANY HINT AS TO HOW ANCIENT A PHASE IS IN NODE 45?  THE SHIPPING DATE

MAY GIVE HINTS.

  I AM TOYING WITH THE IDEA OF AN AUTOMATIC SOLUTION TO ARCHAIC PHASES.  MOLDY PHASES ARE ALSO

OBTAINABLE FROM AN INEPTLY OPERATED FLOPPY DISK AND SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT CONFINED TO AUSTRIA.





NO. 481459 FILED  4.34.48  WED  1 MAR 1978

FROM FJP

TO   RDM

CC   TYM



VIENNA CORE WAS LOADED AS 38 TEST: I SUSPECT WITH A SLIGHTLY LATER CORE THAN SEPT 11, BUT WILL TRACE

SHIPPING RECORDS AND SEE IF WE CAN PIN IT DOWN. I SUPPOSE AMENDMENTS TO INIT TOEXCHANGE  VERSION NUMBERS

AND AUTOJUMP TO DLL IF MORE THAN A FEW PHASES OUTDATED MIGHT BE A SAFEGUARD AGAINST INCOMPATIBILITY, THOUGH

PERHAPS IT'S RATHER SUBJECTIVE AT TIMES.



NO. 483691 FILED  6.39.07  MON  6 MAR 1978

FROM FJP

TO   GHR MRL

CC   NETI



WONDER OF WONDERS, VIENNA ACTUALLY CAME UP THIS MORNING.

NOW...OF THE 2 APL NUMBERS WE HAVE HERE, 1 IS RING NO ANSWER (561501) AND

THE OTHER  (563696) ANSWERS, BUT REVERTS TO OFFERING TONE ON THE WRONG FREQUENCY (ORIGINATE-MODE)

RATHER THAN ASNWER MODE (WHICH IT APPEAR TO OFFER VERY BRIEFLY BEFORE SWITCHING).



PERHAPS YOU COULD TRY WITH GERMAN MODEMS IN CASE THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCE IN ANSWERING PROTOCOL.





NO. 483721 FILED  7.57.42  MON  6 MAR 1978

FROM MDH

TO   FJP

CC   GHR MRL NETI



IT IS MY RECOLLECTION OF INSTALLING DUSSELDORF ORIGINALLY THAT AT LEAST SOME GERMAN (SIEMENS)

MODEMS HAVE THE PROPERTY OF INITIALLY TRANSMITTING ON THE OPPOSITE CHANNEL TO THIER STEADY STATE



IE IF JUMPERED FOR ANSWER IT WILL SEND ON THE 'ORIGINATE' CHANNEL FOR A FEW SECONDS. THE REASON IS NOT CLEAR

POSSIBLY TO LET THE INITIAL NOISE IMPULSES ON THE LINE DIE AWAY PRIOR TO INITIATING TRANSMISSION.



I SUSPECT THAT THE MODEMS IN VIENNA ARE OF THE SAME TYPE BUT JUPERED THE OTHER WAY ROUND....





NO. 483798 FILED  9.29.49  MON  6 MAR 1978

FROM FJP

TO   MDH

CC   GHR MRL NETI



AS I UNDERSTAND IT, GERMAN MODEMS HAVE THE (RATHER NICE) FEATURE OF TRANSMITTING ABOUT

4 SECONDS OF 'NEUTRAL' TONE, WHICH IS NEITHER CORRECT FREQUENCY, BUT IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE TIME

FOR SWITCHING TRANSIENTS, SLOW SECRETARIES ETC TO MAKE THE FULL CONNECTION; THE MODEM THEN

SWITCHES TO THE CORRECT MODE.

   THE TONE RECEIVED ON THE VIENNA MODEMS DOES IN FACT SOUND LIKE CORRECT 'ANSWER' TONE

INITIALLY (CONFIRMED BY SWITCHING MODEM AT THIS END TO 'DATA' BEFORE WAITING FOR WIEN TO ANSWER),

THEN SWITCHES TO WHAT SOUNDS LIKE CORRECT 'SEND' TONE. SO I ASSUME THE MODEMS ARE IN FACT WRONGLY STRAPPED.

ITT WRE RESPONSIBLE FOR STRAPPING, SO WE'LL GET ON TO THEM.





NO. 484867 FILED 15.38.36  TUE  7 MAR 1978

FROM RDM

TO   FJP



IT LOOKS LIKE VIENNA HAS GONE DOWN AFTER A BRIEF 24HOURS OF LIFE.

ON THE ASSUMPTION THE AIRPORT AND RAILROADS ARE RUN WITH SAME EFFICIENCY

AS THE AUSTRIAN PTT, PERHAPS WE SHOULD HIRE A HORSE AND SEND SOMEONE OUT THERE.





NO. 485078 FILED  4.24.10  WED  8 MAR 1978

FROM FJP

TO   DUS GHR MRL

CC   CHIV GSO JCF RDM TYM



VIENNA WENT DOWN ABOUT 24 HOURS AGO. SINCE WE CAN'T DIALLUP THE MACHINE TO SEE IF IT'S STILL

RUNNING, WE WEREN'T SURE IS THE PROBLEM IS THE LINE OR THE MACHINE, SO WE COULDN'T REPORT IT TO

THE PTT.

   IF ITT GET THE DIALLUP MODEMS STRAPPED OK, THEY MAY GET 'LINES DOWN'. AT THIS POINT,

SOMEONE SHOULD CONTACT THE PTT AND TELL THEM THE LINK IS DOWN TO DUESSELDORF. ON SECOND THOUGHTS,

REPORTING AT DUESS MAY GET QUICKER ACTION. BEST DO BOTH.





NO. 485120 FILED  6.05.02  WED  8 MAR 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP

CC   CHIV GFO MRL RDM TYM



YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE THIS.

THE REASON THAT THE VIENNA LINE IS DOWN IS THAT THE AUSTRIAN AUTHORITIES

NOW SAY WE DO NOT HAVE PERMISION TO USE IT.

I HAD A DREAM ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO THAT I WAS SITTING IN AN OFFICE IN VIENNA

AND HAVING BEEN TOLD PRECISELY WHAT TO PUT IN A LETTER REQUESTING APPROVAL TO USE

THE LINE, I WENT AWAY AND HAD A LETTER TYPED . THIS LETTER (SO I WAS TOLD IN MY DREAM)

WAS PERFECTLY IN ORDER AND THAT ALL POLITICAL PROBLEMS WERE NOW REMOVED.

NOW I AM AWAKE I'LL HAVE TO APLOGISE TO THE VIENNESE AUTHORITIES AND ASK AGAIN

IF WE MAY USE THE LINE... SORRY ABOUT ALL THIS... ROBBIE





NO. 485204 FILED  9.08.05  WED  8 MAR 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP

CC   CHIV GFO MRL RDM TYM



JUST BEEN ON TO VIENNA.

GOT THE RIGHT CHAP WHO CONFIRMED THATWE DO N0T HAVE PERMISSION TO USE THE LINE,

WHY THE HELL DID THEY CONDITION IT.....

HE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONFERENCE SO PASSED ME ON TO SOMEONE WHO WAS NOT THERE.

HAD A FRIENDLYCALL FROM THE BUNDESPOST HERE ASKING US WHAT THE HELL GOES ON....

HE HAD SPENT THE LAST 2 HOURS TRYING TO CONTACT SOMEONE IN VIENNA...

THEY ARE REALLY MIYSTIFIED AS WE HAVE PRECISELY THE SAME TECHNICAL SET-UP HERE IN DUESS.

I WAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD DURING MY LAST VISIT TO VIENNA BY A MAN CALLED FABITZ THAT ALL WE

HAD TO DO WAS TO RING HIS OPPOSITE TECHNICAL NUMBER AND THE LINE WAS OURS.

I GUESS HE WAS RIGHT.. WE DID HAVE IT FOR A DAY... ROBBIE



NO. 485246 FILED  9.51.33  WED  8 MAR 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP

CC   CHIV DUS GFO MRL RDM TYM



WOULD YOU F.......... G WELL IT..

I HAVE JUST BEEN TOLD BY VIENNA THAT WE CANNOT HAVE THE LINE BECAUSE WE ARE BEING ACCESSED

IN THE DUESSELDORF OFFICE BY THE PSTN........

IT HAS SFA TO DO WITHTHE BLOODY AUSTRIANS AND THE BUNDESPOST HERE HAS TOLD THEM

SO... I STILL HAVE'NT GIVEN UP... BUT I OUGHT TO.... ROBBIE





NO. 485258 FILED 10.03.18  WED  8 MAR 1978

FROM FJP

TO   GHR

CC   RDM



I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD GATHER ALL THIS VIENNA THING TOGETHER. I HAVE A REQUEST SITTING ON MY DESK

FOR EVIDENCE THE OECD WANTS TO PRESENT TO EUROPARLIAMENT FOR REORGANISATION OF THE PTTS IN EUROPE AS

A WHOLE (NOT JUST EEC) SUCH THAT THEY BECOME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. THIS SAGA HAS BECOME

TOTALLY UNBELIEVABLE, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LET IT SLIP. I'VE UNFORTUNATELY DESTROYED MUCH OF

THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE PROCEEDINGS(NAIVELY THINKING ON MANY OCCASIONS THAT AT LAST WE'D GOT THERE).

PERHAPS YOU STILL HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF IT CHRONICLED?





NO. 485309 FILED 10.49.29  WED  8 MAR 1978

FROM GHR

TO   FJP

CC   RDM



NO , I TEND YTO THROW MY STUFF AWAY..... MAIL BOX MESSAGE I MEAN.

MY ORIGINAL REQUST FOR PERMISSION WAS PUT IN ON MAY 24TH.

LIKE BRUSSELS THEY DID NOT REPLY, BUT JUST GAVE ME THE NODE.

IF IT GOES ON MUCH LONGER I'LL GET TO VIENNA AND BRING THE BLOODY

ROOF DOWN WITH THE HELP OF THE CANADIAN EMBASSY... ROBBIE